The "it's true for you" Concept

topic posted Mon, October 31, 2005 - 3:40 PM by  Violet
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Hey all,

New to the group, but I've been having some trouble myself with this one lately. I am a reiki professor and teacher of spiritual and psychic arts. The biggest problem I have with my students is the belief. I spent a long time on the road to spirituality and like others have been confused and turned around and completely miscontrued it wasn't funny.

In the end though I managed to find what I like to refer to as "the truth" it's definitely a lot different than a lot of the myths about things and it changes from myth to myth obviously so writing it all down would be like writing my findings on everything from Astrology to Zen Meditation and heck, I'm sure you all don't have the time to read all of that.

Anyways, my issue isn't really with the findings, it's with the sharing of the findings. They tend to run the line between "fact"and "belief" and half the time what I have learned as "fact" gets set to the back of a person's mind as "my belief". I am so used to hearing this line and it just drives me crazy!

"Well, I'm sure that's true for you, but it's not for me."

Now, when we talk about the reality between true and false in spiritual matters we really get into that line of experience, I mean, if one person experiences it, shouldn't they be able to share it with the general public as to so educate them?

What I find for me is that half the time people will say, "Well it's true for you because you experienced it, I on the other hand have not experienced it so therefore it is not true for me."

That's another line that drives me crazy, I just want to know why people would choose to take this card when one is attempting to educate them better on the terms. Certainly, I'm not famous and I haven't written a book, but I'm sure that if I did people would listen to me. I mean, did you see the new book coming out about how you can talk to people who are possessed by demons in order to find out how to make lots of money? I mean, if people like him can be taken seriously, why can't I be in the privacy of a one on one student lesson?

Let me know your thoughts on this, thanks!
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Violet
Canada
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  • Re: The "it's true for you" Concept

    Tue, November 1, 2005 - 2:01 AM
    Resonance. Planting a true seed. Then stepping one small step back. Letting it unfold in its own time.

    The experienced time flow of the other.
    • Re: The "it's true for you" Concept

      Tue, November 1, 2005 - 10:22 AM
      There is no one cozy blanket
      called truth.

      The student is the teacher
      and the teacher the student

      What is it inside you
      that craves
      being the "teacher"
      Why do you assume
      that others have not already had
      the experiences that are ripe for them?

      If you share your experience
      through your words
      it is not the actual experience you are sharing
      but your perception of it

      An event/action/string of words in a book
      is percieved differently
      by each being
      so you cannot possibly "share" an experience
      with someone else
      it is sacred
      because it is yours
      and yours alone

      you can share your joy
      of having had the experience
      and in sharing that joy
      you bring the vibration up
      This is all we can hope to do
      for/with another being

      Then they move on through their life
      after their conversation (an experience)
      with you
      and maybe the next thing that comes to them
      will inspire them further
      because they are on that higher vibe
      just from being WITH you

      Integrate the joyousness
      of each enlightening experience
      and you radiate
      joy

      Try pushing that "enlightenment"
      on another
      and you radiate
      frustration

      Which vibration do you
      really want
      to create?


      inlight,

      Neith
  • Re: The "it's true for you" Concept

    Thu, November 3, 2005 - 10:16 PM
    Did you read the post about "The Master" in the Osho Zen Tarot? infiniteinfinity.tribe.net/thre...af68b
    • Re: The "it's true for you" Concept

      Fri, November 4, 2005 - 4:34 PM
      Everyone can have experiences that make certain things TRUE. Like the three children at Fatima, the Amytiville horror, or other signs and wonders using symbols according to the creed of the believers. There are also more personal experiences like those of a man who wrote a book about going to hell and back, Paul the Apostle (if the story hasn't been distorted), revelations on the Astral realm.... whatever it is, it's there as an opportunity for each soul or soul-collective to make a step in their journey unto total Enlightenment. There is a scripture that rings true to me, although many others don't, and in it Jesus says, "In my Fathers house are many mansions". I take that to mean that seemingly contradictory truths have a way of working out-or not (maybe then the student is ready for a higher truth)-but seeing with the Eye Of The Absolute, all pieces fit together making the Big Picture.
      • Re: The "it's true for you" Concept

        Fri, November 4, 2005 - 5:26 PM
        + When a truth is depicted, told, taught, read or any other means of entering it into the mind it is not known to be true in the being of one's self. This can one be achieve through experiencing this truth for one's self. Even if the truth resonates very deeply with you. Become a gentle observer of your consciousness and your mind, words, actions and deeds for this is your experience. Through this process you will become aware of the perfection and the gifts these truths have brought forth. You will also realize which truths are actually illusions used to bring forth greater enlightenment and to help humanity as a whole realize who we truly are. Use these illusion for there purpose and live with them not within them. Never stop expanding the possibility of a truth for it will always have a grander vision of itself than you ever thought possible as long as you gently notice and allow it to grow and expand.

        + Namaste!

        + Seth D8 <--...

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